Comments on: Hulu has Firefly, and you shouldn't watch it http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/ Geekstuff, for the discriminating geek Fri, 11 May 2012 17:25:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=384 By: Chris Johnston http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4347 Chris Johnston Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:09:42 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4347 Well, the folks at SF Signal are definitely Browncoats, and they've been putting the Hulu links to very good use... It's a Sci Fi Christmas - Firefly http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/006040.html Sunday Cinema - Firefly: The Train Job http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/006061.html SF Signal: Firefly Archive http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/cat_tv/firefly.html Well, the folks at SF Signal are definitely Browncoats, and they've been putting the Hulu links to very good use…

It's a Sci Fi Christmas – Firefly
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/006040.html

Sunday Cinema – Firefly: The Train Job
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/006061.html

SF Signal: Firefly Archive
http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/cat_tv/firefly.html

]]> By: Jess http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4359 Jess Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:03:00 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4359 You know, I just buy DVD's, and send fan mail to the writers not the networks *I usually only watch a few episodes on the T.V. decide if it is good or not, and then wait for the DVD box sets: did it with Buffy, Angel, Bones, House, Firefly* And after I watched them all, turned to the world of Fanfiction. Yeah :P You know, I just buy DVD's, and send fan mail to the writers not the networks *I usually only watch a few episodes on the T.V. decide if it is good or not, and then wait for the DVD box sets: did it with Buffy, Angel, Bones, House, Firefly* And after I watched them all, turned to the world of Fanfiction.

Yeah :P

]]> By: Jon http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4346 Jon Wed, 26 Dec 2007 21:05:06 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4346 I do have to put in one good thing about hulu.com....a coworker of mine was watching it, so I pointed him towards the Firefly episodes. He watched, he loved, he's buying the DVDs. So at least it can be used for some good, and not all evil... I do have to put in one good thing about hulu.com….a coworker of mine was watching it, so I pointed him towards the Firefly episodes. He watched, he loved, he's buying the DVDs. So at least it can be used for some good, and not all evil…

]]> By: Kelsey http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4345 Kelsey Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:45:28 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4345 And I AM buying the dvds once I am not poor. Also - I just realized. When it's illegal, the writers don't get money... but neither do the execs. HAH! And I AM buying the dvds once I am not poor. Also – I just realized. When it's illegal, the writers don't get money… but neither do the execs. HAH!

]]> By: sh!ny http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4361 sh!ny Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:09:00 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4361 The whole "watching things illegally online" thing doesn't bother me...if I know I'm going to purchase that product at a later date. I'll hit the net every week to stream South Park episodes since I don't have cable, but I'm for damn sure buying those DVDs when they're released. The whole "watching things illegally online" thing doesn't bother me…if I know I'm going to purchase that product at a later date. I'll hit the net every week to stream South Park episodes since I don't have cable, but I'm for damn sure buying those DVDs when they're released.

]]> By: Kelsey http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4358 Kelsey Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:26:22 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4358 Want some convoluted logic for you? I'm fine with watching streaming UNLICENSED videos online (I need my Dr. Who, and I have no money, dammit!!!), but I'm down with boycotting sites like Hulu. Yeah, I'm a nut. Want some convoluted logic for you? I'm fine with watching streaming UNLICENSED videos online (I need my Dr. Who, and I have no money, dammit!!!), but I'm down with boycotting sites like Hulu.

Yeah, I'm a nut.

]]> By: Mike http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4355 Mike Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:53:50 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4355 Because the studios are likely to admit that their brand new internet distribution system failed because of the strike? They've already deleted most of the pro-strike comments. If hulu fails they'll attribute it to the uncertainties of new media and end with: 'it's a good thing we didn't have to pay residuals on those shows or we might have lost even more money just like we predicted.' Unless you want to start a massive email campaign to let everyone know that a website that they've never heard of is being boycotted because of the writer's strike that they may have heard mentioned once or twice in news outlets that always seem to report the writers are doomed despite facts to the contrary. Most people don't check serenitystuff.com (foolishly) or any other fan sites for that matter, and will therefore never really know or particularly care about a boycott of hulu. However, if NBC and Newscorp start touting hulu as the future of media distibution on the internet because it's doing so well the WGA can say: 'yeah that's what we've been saying all along and why exactly aren't getting residuals from this money making machine that you're so excited about?' Because the studios are likely to admit that their brand new internet distribution system failed because of the strike? They've already deleted most of the pro-strike comments. If hulu fails they'll attribute it to the uncertainties of new media and end with: 'it's a good thing we didn't have to pay residuals on those shows or we might have lost even more money just like we predicted.' Unless you want to start a massive email campaign to let everyone know that a website that they've never heard of is being boycotted because of the writer's strike that they may have heard mentioned once or twice in news outlets that always seem to report the writers are doomed despite facts to the contrary. Most people don't check serenitystuff.com (foolishly) or any other fan sites for that matter, and will therefore never really know or particularly care about a boycott of hulu. However, if NBC and Newscorp start touting hulu as the future of media distibution on the internet because it's doing so well the WGA can say: 'yeah that's what we've been saying all along and why exactly aren't getting residuals from this money making machine that you're so excited about?'

]]> By: Chris http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4354 Chris Wed, 19 Dec 2007 05:22:07 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4354 More effective? Boycott Hulu but let people know you're doing so. Let the studios and stockholders and advertisers know that Hulu will be a very popular place onice the writers' strike is fairly resolved, but that you're afriad you'll have to avoid it until then. The studios don't get the cash, and the advertisers and stockholders know exactly who's holdimg up their revenue stream. More effective? Boycott Hulu but let people know you're doing so. Let the studios and stockholders and advertisers know that Hulu will be a very popular place onice the writers' strike is fairly resolved, but that you're afriad you'll have to avoid it until then.

The studios don't get the cash, and the advertisers and stockholders know exactly who's holdimg up their revenue stream.

]]> By: Mike http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4353 Mike Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:23:20 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4353 Hey thanks for the reply Tarae and I agree with what you're saying: the AMPTP members have lied about internet revenues already and so have no reason to be honest about what they're making from hulu.com and similar services on their own websites. However, since the studios refuse to negotiate, the issues of this strike are being fought out in court of public opinon. If enough of the corporations shareholders start expressing concerns about double dealing, then we may start to see some quick changes in the AMPTP's attitude. My point was that any ammunition the WGA can dig up on successful new media distribution of film is only to the guild's advantage. If hulu.com is shown to be a successful model, then news of it will start to get out in economic circles. The WGA can and should use this to help sway even more of the viewing public and AMPTP member companies' shareholders to the writers' way of looking at things. Either way I think the actual impact of hulu.com, either financially for the corporations or as ammo for the WGA, will be negligible unless the strike continues for a really really long time in which case it could become a major example for either side depending on its success. Mainly though I just wanted to express an alternate viewpoint as contrariness is in my nature. I'm gonna go donate some more pencils now. Hey thanks for the reply Tarae and I agree with what you're saying: the AMPTP members have lied about internet revenues already and so have no reason to be honest about what they're making from hulu.com and similar services on their own websites. However, since the studios refuse to negotiate, the issues of this strike are being fought out in court of public opinon. If enough of the corporations shareholders start expressing concerns about double dealing, then we may start to see some quick changes in the AMPTP's attitude. My point was that any ammunition the WGA can dig up on successful new media distribution of film is only to the guild's advantage. If hulu.com is shown to be a successful model, then news of it will start to get out in economic circles. The WGA can and should use this to help sway even more of the viewing public and AMPTP member companies' shareholders to the writers' way of looking at things. Either way I think the actual impact of hulu.com, either financially for the corporations or as ammo for the WGA, will be negligible unless the strike continues for a really really long time in which case it could become a major example for either side depending on its success. Mainly though I just wanted to express an alternate viewpoint as contrariness is in my nature. I'm gonna go donate some more pencils now.

]]> By: Tarae http://bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/comment-page-1/#comment-4352 Tarae Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:37:20 +0000 http://www.bashinginminds.com/2007/12/17/hulu-has-firefly-and-you-shouldnt-watch-it/#comment-4352 Mike- I think those are excellent points. The way I see it, there is just one problem. The studios and AMPTP aren't being honest about just how much they are making from "new media" to begin with. If there was a true hope that they would be honest and "fess up" when sites like Hulu did really well, then I would lean more towards your argument of not giving them a reason to tell the writers they aren't making anything by not watching streaming media now. But these are the same folks who said they needed time to study whether or not they could make money off the internet. While they are already making millions... if not BILLIONS... off of it! It's frustrating, I know. There are so many ways you could turn this issue around in your own head that it is sometimes hard to tell which end is up!! In the end, my own perspective on it is that I choose to give the enemy no quarter. I see watching new media now as a sort of "policy of appeasement"... if we do this, then we *hope* they will do this. There is no hope about it. They have already shown their true colors by walking away from the table. They won't do what we want unless we hit them where it hurts... right in the wallet. And if enough people boycott streaming content, then that is exactly what we will be doing. I hope this helps! Mike- I think those are excellent points. The way I see it, there is just one problem. The studios and AMPTP aren't being honest about just how much they are making from "new media" to begin with. If there was a true hope that they would be honest and "fess up" when sites like Hulu did really well, then I would lean more towards your argument of not giving them a reason to tell the writers they aren't making anything by not watching streaming media now.

But these are the same folks who said they needed time to study whether or not they could make money off the internet. While they are already making millions… if not BILLIONS… off of it! It's frustrating, I know. There are so many ways you could turn this issue around in your own head that it is sometimes hard to tell which end is up!!

In the end, my own perspective on it is that I choose to give the enemy no quarter. I see watching new media now as a sort of "policy of appeasement"… if we do this, then we *hope* they will do this. There is no hope about it. They have already shown their true colors by walking away from the table. They won't do what we want unless we hit them where it hurts… right in the wallet. And if enough people boycott streaming content, then that is exactly what we will be doing.

I hope this helps!

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